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Created by Mohamad Azzam
Created on Aug 8, 2023

Hydrology SWMM Routing in ICM SIM

There is a difference in results between ICM SWMM and ICM SIM (InfoWorks networks) when a subcatchments’ internal routing set to ‘pervious’ is due to a difference in implementation/methodology. Hence a larger volumes of runoff In ICMSWMM than ICM SIM’s implementation as the pervious infiltration, using the recently added CNSWMM to the ICM SIM.

We request consider adding the ICM SWMM implementation to ICM SIM as a new feature.

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    Sophia Buchanan
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    Jan 22, 2024

    Thanks all for your feedback on modifying the ICM routing to match SWMM networks. Rather than adding a new option we have changed the behavior of ICM SIM to match SWMM. This is available in 2024.4 and above (note database update required!).

  • Mohamad Azzam
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    Aug 12, 2023

    Thank you Bob for clarifying the ideas. We all would love to have the SWMM5 hydrology equipped in InfoWorks ICM (SIM) and the user will have sole choice implementing what suits the region and standard belong to achieve a success modeling and deliverable. Also that will adding more value to the Infoworks ICM.

  • Robert Dickinson
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    Aug 12, 2023

    An image of the two options discussed in the idea

  • Robert Dickinson
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    Aug 12, 2023

    There are two distinct routing methods described in this Idea:

    1. Impervious to Pervious Internal Routing:

      • Rainfall hits an impervious surface, producing "runon."

      • This runon, combined with direct rainfall, impacts the pervious surface.

      • The pervious surface then produces "runoff" and allows some water to infiltrate the ground.

      • The runoff from the pervious surface contributes to the lateral inflow, which then proceeds to a node.

    2. Direct Routing:

      • Both impervious and pervious surfaces receive direct rainfall.

      • Each surface produces its own runoff, with the pervious surface also allowing for infiltration.

    The runoff from both surfaces combines to form the lateral inflow, which then leads to a node.

    a little diagram to further explain this

    Impervious to Pervious Internal Routing

    Rainfall Rainfall + Runon
    ↓ ↓
    ------------------- -------------------
    | Impervious | | Pervious |
    | | | |
    ------------------- -------------------
    ↓ ↓ ↓
    Runon Runoff Infiltration

    Lateral Inflow

    Node

    Direct Routing

    Rainfall Rainfall
    ↓ ↓
    ------------------- -------------------
    | Impervious | | Pervious |
    | | | |
    ------------------- -------------------
    ↓ ↓ ↓
    Runoff Runoff Infiltration
    ↓ ↓
    +--------------------+

    Lateral Inflow

    Node